6 thoughts on “Most Recent? Most Frequent? Most Accurate?

  1. Very thoughtful post, Tom. I completely agree with the sentiment and the discussion is an important one, but I’d like to offer some push back. I don’t see what you are discussing as being relevant TO standards based grading, but an argument FOR it. In SBG, we wouldn’t report on “writing” but individually on each of the styles/genres, or even better, the development of meaning, form, style, conventions, etc within and across styles.

    When reporting on specific standards/outcomes/objectives, there’s no way to average. It’s simply a matter of reporting if the student is meeting the expectations for that standard, and possibly to what degree. Now, obviously traditional report cards are completely useless for communicating this with parents, but that’s a whole other conversation.

    • Thanks for commenting Jeremy, but I’m not sure I’m with you. What SBG looks like is often contextual (i.e. jurisdiction) and varies depending on levels. Yes, there are core fundamentals, but there is much to consider when implementing SBG. One of those core fundamentals is using the most recent/frequent evidence so I’m not sure I see (or agree) with the TO/FOR point you make. Admittedly, the post is relatively generic, but that’s intentional to capture the widest range of reader. It isn’t always the case that separate levels would be given for form, style, etc. Younger students…sure, but one of the concerns with separating standards too far is that we lose sight of what really matters, which is pulling together multiple standards and outcomes into more authentic/larger demonstrations. Sometimes the whole is greater than the sum (i.e. PBL) The idea of a high school biology teacher, for example, reporting on each standard (and the subsequent underpinnings) would be overwhelming and not likely consumable by parents. SBG is not necessarily about creating a never ending checklist of finite skills that we check off. While that may happen in some places and/or with younger students, it won’t happen everywhere. There is no SBG formula so there really is no, “in SBG you do X” because of the variations of curricular standards and/or interpretations vary. Yes, there is the “common” core in the US, but the way school districts/states decide to report on standards is not uniform.

      Also, while I’m not a defender of averaging, it is simply not true that there is “no way” to average when averaging is done across 4 levels (vs. 101 percentage points). SBG will (and does) look different at the high school level; often some form of summarization is necessary. I understand your comment from an elementary perspective, but to apply that to the high school level is not replicable.

      • My apologies, I often speak of theoretical ideals, rather than practicalities. Ideally, I do think we should be separating out, and giving feedback on individual standards. Practically, the specificity to which these are prescribed by the governing body will likely make this a challenge in many cases and I am admittedly unfamiliar with how standards are written in the common core, but I do like the direction in which the new curriculum is addressing this in BC. As a current elementary teacher, I feel fortunate with the flexibility I have in the prescribed curriculum to focus on the big picture ideas. I didn’t have that flexibility when I taught senior math and chemistry classes; though I also didn’t know any different at the time.

        Coming from a math and science background, I can confidently say that averages are statistically irrelevant unless that which is being measured is the same each time. It’s certainly not in most cases. Regardless, I think we both agree that averaging is not a powerful practise.

        I don’t think the idea of a checklist to too far-fetched when reporting to parents. For example, when I give a math assessment (formerly known as tests), they’re always short answer, each question addresses a specific learning outcome, and each outcome usually has three or four questions associated with it. Students and parents never see a number associated with the assessment, or a percentage, they just get a checklist that identifies (on a 4 point scale) how well the student demonstrated the expected learning. This way I communicate with parents very specifically what the students know and demonstrate, and where they need to focus more. It’s a lot of work to setup, but fits with my vision of SBG and I think it can be done with most courses at most levels with a reasonable list of standards to implement.

        I also think that most teachers probably do a decent job of explaining what the expectations are and how students meet them (or not). I think the bigger problem here is report cards and the expectation that they give a complete and accurate picture of how students are doing. I wonder if we’d be having this discussion is report cards weren’t mandated 2-4 times a year.

  2. Mr. Schimmer, I am a student at the University of South Alabama enrolled in an EDM310 course. The post you have written has given me some excellent tips to becoming a better teacher. Once I have my own classroom I will definitely remember some of the points you have brought up. I agree with this post the most in that accuracy is the best option. I can think back to my 11th grade English course, where in the first half of the semester I did terrible because I was not that great at reading and regurgitating facts on tests. The second half of the semester was all poetry and creative writing, and it was like I was a totally different student. I do not blame the teacher at all, she was in fact one of my favorite teachers, but, as stated above, what are some tips on how I could avoid running into that problem with students and still get the required curriculum down?

  3. Mr. Schimmer, I am a student at the University of South Alabama enrolled in EDM310. I really enjoyed reading your post. It gave me some great thoughts on becoming a future teacher. I agree that the pace someone works should not be how they are graded. In my freshmen year of college, had a class where we had to come in everyday and spend the first 10 minutes on a given topic and write a 7-10 sentence paragraph. Although to others, it may seem easy, but for me, I felt rushed and couldn’t think off the “top” of my head. How can I manage this for the writing part of my future classrooms?

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